Angry Father Reacts To Son's Suspension By Posting Signs Comparing School Board To Hitler
Maryville Daily Forum, Tony Brown
I guess the problem is your message isn't/wasn't getting out to the rest of the country. I have seen quite a few people stepping forward from Maryville now. This helps everyone. Thank you for being one of them.
My final comment, I don't think of the people in Maryville who did this "as our own." I could not care less about he scum who did this to Daisy. I live in Maryville, but I belong to my group of friends and family. "My own" does not include the arrogant "big names" who like to throw their money around.
Also, a lot of people have said THIS IS WRONG. So many poeple have acknowledged this, and I read it in the comments below. They are saying that they didn't know, and they would have helped had they known.
A lot of poeple who didn't know at first are outraged, and they do care for Daisy. Several of those people have expressed outrage and will be at the rally for Daisy on Tuesday. The reason we are mad is because people keep telling us to do something now that we know, and we are, yet people keep telling us we are not. That is what is making me mad personally. I do care, and everyone outside of Maryville thinks EVERYONE in the town does not care, and that is not true.
I am sure this is difficult from both sides. However, the people of the world are seeing the people of Maryville complaining about it not being all of them, or whining about this wasn't their children. No one in Maryville has stepped up and said "THIS was WRONG! This is not who we are or what we stand for. We are so sorry Daisy Coleman and her family went through this extraordinary treatment by some of our own." No one there has said it. They just fuss about the attention they are getting. Mind you, this was the same attention the Coleman family received.
I am sorry for those of you who were not involved and did not know...but you are still silent. Why not step up and say how wrong it is and how you don't stand with those who practiced this shameful behavior in your town.
Finally, if you are having trouble understanding how we are all seeing your behavior, please remember how you felt when you heard about State College people acted after Jerry Sandusky was outed. The riots after Paterno lost his job. The indignation of the people of the town. The players who were caught in the middle who had NOTHING to do about it, but stood tall (they were by far the best example in all of it...the rest of the town was wrong). Rarely did we hear about how the town felt about those poor boys. The world was watching and angry at the town for their attitude. Your town needs to lose their attitude and show some love to the family you wronged by your continued silence about Daisy. You have had a week of knowledge about this....so no more excuses.
I really wish people wouldn't generalize a whole group of people based on the actions of some people. Maryville is about as responsible for raping and running that girl out of town as all of America was responsible for slavery. Judging a group a people based on a few people shows a great deal of ignorance. I could say that the whole state of Arkansas is bad because recently a man took a bunch of kids hostage for a short time on a bus with a gun. I could say that the whole state of Utah and Mormans are bad because a Morman Utah resident is on trial for killing is wife (by they way, this case took years to enter court and people thought he too was innocent.) My point is that the whole city didn't do this. There have been threats called into the schools in Maryville because of all this, and, as is noted in this article, the school actually did something about the actions of the boys. The whole city is not "useless".
I really wish this post had not denegrated into an angry, mean-spirited argument. Last time I checked, this was a publication for coaches and athletic directors to give input on issues from their perspective. I understand there are deep emotions involved on both sides of any issue...in particular an issue that involves the tragic rape of a drunken teenage girl (who also made a poor choice, by the way). Her life will never be the same. This young man's life will never be the same, either. But to say the an entire town is full of garbage people because this happened, is simply ludicrous and emotion-based politicking. I would like to see this entire set of posts cleared and a new comment section set up for athletic directors and coaches to give their input on how they would have handled a situation like this. That is how we learn. That is how we help one another grow.
Frankly, none of us ever want to deal with a situation like this. For a coach and an athletic director, they are forced into dealing with an off the field incident like this which is a very difficult situation. Before I made any permanent decision, I would want all of the facts that I could get on the incident. For sure the young man would be suspended from team activities until an issue this serious could be resolved. Why do I think this is a good idea? Because there is way too much emotion involved in a situation like this. My first responsibility in my position is the school...how the school looks...how it is portrayed on the field. I was hired by the school to represent them. I am accountable to the school and to parents to make sure that the competitors on the field are fully equipped. In this case, I think a policy might want to be looked at where the coaches do some teaching about life in general. About decisions we make. Not always do we inherit the best home situations, or parents. Coaches and AD's need to do their best to fill in the gaps in these situations. We are not only administrators and coaches. We are mentors as well. How many times have you heard a young college player or pro football player say that they had a horrible home situation, but their coaches filled in a lot of those gaps for them and helped them grow into a mature person? Pretty often, unfortunately. Coaches especially have inherited a role that was not originally meant to be. That of part-time parent for anywhere from 2-100 players. It is an extra job, and one that should be considered and taken seriously. We have an opportunity to impact kids beyond the field in a way that words can never describe.
Bottom line here is that we need to take a step back, and try to view this situation from all angles and make the best decision in the interest of all involved. At times there may be someone who feels like they are getting the shaft. The best Coaches and AD's are the ones who can make tough decisions, and stand by them.
I pray for U-All. May God be the judge.
This is ridiculous. The kid was going nowhere in life, so a year's suspension isn't going to affect his future waiting tables at Denny's. See, place like Maryville are useless...filled with dumb, ignorant white trash that contribute NOTHING to this great country of ours. We shouldn't be surprised that things like this happen in places like Maryville.
What a bunch of dirtbags who act like they did nothing wrong. Not surprised because their dirtbag family defend them. Society will have the last laugh. Your life is ruined children.
It's amazing how the explanations and excuse of the locals in this case are so strikingly similar to the excuses heard at Penn State.
It is a very sad state of affairs.
This outsider kid takes the fall for a crime that the connected kids perpetrate on an outsider girl? Maryville sounds like an awful pit.
How would I, as a Maryville resident, be responsible for driving someone out of town if I never met them, didn't even know they moved, didn't have kids in the high school, didn't know they were being harassed,didn't hear about the story except for a little bit in the beginning, and didn't know any of the other people involved? I am not going to be "looking hard" at what I did because I had NO IDEA that most of this even happened. I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN THESE CASES, AND I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THE THREATS AND TERRIBLE COMMENTS ABOUT THAT LUMP EVERYONE TOGETHER. The city with the highest crime rate is Detroit, MI. I guess everyone from there is evil and should burn in hell too, right? Maryville is full of loving and caring people. My mother, for example, takes care of her grandchild full time because the mother can't due to illness. She doesn't even have time to watch the news. She stays home with the kid. I just informed her today about all the stuff going on, and she had not even heard! How is she to blame? My dad travels to work because he just lost his job due o a local factory closing. He is almost 60 and has to work in a very poor environment just to make ends meet now. He doesn't have time to be "running people out of town". If someone can give me a rational explanation about how people who had no clue this stuff was going on should have helped, I would love to hear it. I figured the guys went to court. I know that I could not have done anything for that family because I didn't know what was going on. No one talked about it. No one heard about it. People act like it was public knowledge that the family was being harassed. I never met the family or the boys who raped those girls. I could not pick any of them out in a line-up. I sleep well at night because I know that I can't help people when I don't know they have problems. Finally, my child lives in this town. For anyone who says the whole town is full of horrible residents, you are including my 5 year old kid, and that is pretty low. You don't choose where you are born. You don't have control over other's actions. I help people need. I stand up for others. I CAN'T HELP PEOPLE IF I DONT'T EVEN KNOW THEY NEED HELP.
Just curious - if this boy who might have been a witness received a one year suspension - were the boys accused of rape also suspended for a year? Or longer? Or only 60 days or not at all? Was the punishment consistent? If the actual rapists were patted on the back while a possible witness was punished severely, then I can understand the father's anger. Not his way of expressing it, maybe...
This man failed to teach his son that when you see someone helpless and being abused that you need to help them. Would he be spouting the same bulls**t if it was HIS daughter??
Anyone who stood silently by as these young women were being pilloried should hang their heads. Maryville is only getting the attention it has because it chose to protect a favorite son over a rape victim. Every resident is guilty by association. If the town is so full of "good" people, how did this happen? Why was the Coleman family driven from the town? All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. I hope every last Maryville resident looks good and hard at what they did to allow a rapist to walk freely among them while his victims were shamed and harassed.
Some of these comments are disturbing. One says " His son didn't know she was being raped because she was too drunk to even say anything." If someone is too drunk to even TALK then that should have clued him in that she can't consent and was being violated. If this guy didn't teach his son that witnessing a rape and doing nothing is a crime, that's his problem. If he is perpetuating the idea that being a witness to a crime and staying silent doesn't make him complicit, he has real problems.
The boy was suspended from activities because of his involvement in the party (alcohol and drugs) not rape anyway, so this "just a witness" thing is moot anyway.
Let's get our facts straight. Was it one girl ortwo and why does that matter. Witnessing an unconscious sex act regardless of age and doing nothing to report it is an act of consent, therefore the boy is guilty of being accessory to the crime. Losing his football rights should be the least of his problems. Shame on all who condone this behavior.
I was at a party once and a girl was assulted. I didn't know it was happening because I was in the other room. I didn't get in any trouble. I didn't see anything, but I heard about it later that night. It was not the same situation, but if someone would have punished me, I would have been pretty taken aback. I was also over 21 and out of high school, but still, being someplace a crime occurs doesn't make me a criminal any more than it does this boy. Also, call me stupid, but I didn't know it was rape to have sex with a girl who is too drunk. It has happened to me before, and I guess I didn't even know it was techincally rape. I am a woman and I didn't know that. I am sure there are a lot of other people who don't know that too.
Also, he cooperated completely with the investigation. Get off your high horse.
From what I understand, Cole did not record it or rape anyone. He was just there. People need to shut up about the whole thing and stop saying bad things about people you never met. You people are no better than the actual rapists if you think innocent people should be put in jail for being in the same place a crime occurred.
Anyone who witnesses a violent crime, is friends with the perpetrators, and does not report the crime, is then complicit in the crime. He's lucky they didn't put him in jail. By his father's behavior, this is the man who raised him, I think we can see a pattern of misplaced priorities begin to emerge.
He just filmed a rape of a child. Where I come from, that's called child porn. Of course, I don't come from Marysville.
"His son didn't know she was being raped because she was too drunk to even say anything."
Let's imagine that a girl is unconscious because she fell and hit her head. By your logic, having sex with her wouldn't be rape because she was knocked out.
Do you not see how effed up that "logic" is?
So sad to have to live in a town where law enforcement officials put personal agendas and connections before doing their job and bringing justice. "I guess they're just going to have to get over it." Sheriff White
to @father of rapists, Jay's kid didn't rape anyone. I hope someday someone judges you based on the actions of someone around you. I hope you are never found in a situation where you know someone who did something wrong and you and everyone around you is called trash and evil, because that is what people are saying about the entier town of Maryville right now. There are good people in this town.
The town didn't have anything to do with what happened. I live in Maryville, and I didn't even hear anything about the case after it first happened. I had no idea most of the details or that the charges were dropped until this weekend. How can everyone in the town be to blame? I don't know most of the people in any of the news stories going around. To blame a whole town is ingorant.
I don't think it says anywhere in this article that anyone said "rape is ok." Judge much?
I'm sorry you are so blind to your sons faults, but then again most "boys" learn from their fathers. Teaching that rape is a-okay must have been a lifelong journey for you. You make me physically I'll.
So glad I don't live anywhere near this hillbilly town.
Yes, he chose to party, but it was his first offence. The point is that he was not punished as was outlined in the school policy. Had it been any other incident, or a of someone with a "special" last name, he would have got the 60 days. He expected the 60 days. The Forney's are not a "big name" family. They aren't even from Maryville originally. Jay didn't even want to move there. He only did so because his wife wanted to.
I'm sorry but isnt extra curricular activities(athletics) a privlage? He chose to go to a party where drugs and alcohol were and by Missouri State Law that makes him guilty by association. I hope that the mothers of the girls that got raped continue to file a lawsuit against the sherriff, prosecuting attorney, judge, and who ever else turned their heads just because a couple of parents in Maryville are popular by name. If this was my son that did this you bet your *** that I would do mor punishment than a suspension from school.
Cole wasn't even at the party for very long so who knows if he even knew what all happened. He was not one of the boys who video taped it. I am sure that rape happens quite a bit at high school parties because it is considered rape if the girl is too drunk to consent. I am sure I have been at parties during college where this very thing could have been happening in rooms right next to me, and I would have had no idea. If someone is at a party and this kind of thing happens, it does not make them guilty because they were there. The two boys who committed the rapes and the boy who recorded it are the criminals. Cole got a severe punishment from the school because his family is not from Maryville and they are not a big family with a high social status. The school made an example out of him because his parents are not in with the big names areound Maryville. Stop jumping on these people without knowing all the facts.
Imagine the outrage if he had a daughter going to that school.
I think that the year long suspension term is a bit extreme. Being a high school athletic director and serve on a college conference board, that is a bit steep. In my 14 years of high school athletics I've never seen anything as exaggerated as this. Makes you think what kind of people are in this world.
Oh, boo hoo, your son can't play overrated high school sports? It sounds like this whole town is full of trash.
The fact that he "didn't know she was being raped because she was too drunk to even say anything" is a fault of parents and teachers who don't teach a child to know that that is rape. The absence of "no" is not acceptance or permission. Period. If you do not give consent because you can't give consent, that's rape. It's rape. This kid didn't know that something was wrong when he saw 17 year olds having sex with a 13 year old girl too drunk to say no? I can't believe that. I can't believe that anyone would think that was okay.
If he really didn't know that is unacceptable he has bigger problems than not playing football this year. Like, I don't know, severe mental illness.
You people don't even know him. Jay is a really great guy. He is not even from Maryville. He moved to Mareyville to give his kids more opportunities than they had in the small town they were from. He doesn't give a crap about social status in Maryville. He thinks the Maryville school was bad for his kids in the end. His son didn't know she was being raped because she was too drunk to even say anything. He was a naive teenager who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and he deserved to get the 60 day suspension as was outlined in the school policy. He never said the rapists should not be punished. Stop vilifying people for no reason.
Forney, you are as repulsive as your putative son-it's obvious from where he got his loathsome "values". I hope Anonymous destroys both of you.
A girl's life has been destroyed and someone's putting up angry signs about his mediocre high school football player son's suspension?! He should be in prison, not on the football field. #jordanandmattarefree
Go get 'em Anonymous.
He didnt just witness it,he stood by and videotaped it!Real nice young person,right!Deserves suspension and more.
His son witnessed a crime against a child. Didn't stop it. Didn't report it. But remained buddies with the rapists on facebook and twitter. Such character! And all the dad cares about is a football trophy over an empty head.
His son witnessed it, and didn't commit the rape. The school should have followed their protocol. His son didn't commit the rape. Why punish someone for what another has done? If I walk past someone getting mugged, and I see it, should I be punished too? That would be stupid.
Really? He's angry his son can't play football for a year? Not about the fact that his son was "just a witness" to the rape of two girls -- two children -- by his son's football buddies?